關稅戰｜習近平致電特朗普？　特朗普點形容習近平來電？（附全文）

美國總統特朗普上任100天，即接受《時代TIME》雜誌專訪，談及關稅政策等看法，並聲稱中國主席習近平曾致電給他，惟未有透露致電的時間及雙方的對話內容。特朗普又指，目前的中美關係難以持續，因加徵145%關稅下難以見到生意，但會「有一個讓他們感到舒服的數字」。

特朗普稱，當中國賺了1萬億美元，美國卻損失近2萬億美元時，這是不可持續的，而他會稱之為「損失」。

Q：Will you call President Xi if he doesn’t call you？ 

A：No.

Q：You won’t？ 

A：Nope.

Q：Has he called you yet？ 

A：Yep.

Q：When did he call you？ 

A：He's called. And I don't think that's a sign of weakness on his behalf. 

Q：But you would think it’s a sign of weakness if you called him？

A：I don’t–I just look—

Q：Well， what did he say？ 

A：If people want to–well， we all want to make deals. But I am this giant store. It's a giant， beautiful store， and everybody wants to go shopping there. And on behalf of the American people， I own the store， and I set prices， and I'll say， if you want to shop here， this is what you have to pay.

Q：This period of uncertainty will be over in three to four weeks？ 

A：I don’t think there’s any uncertainty there. The only thing—they have an option. They don't have to shop here. They can go someplace else， but there aren't too many places they can go. You understand what I mean though？

Q：Sure. Your Treasury Secretary says this situation with China is unsustainable. 

A：Oh I agree. You mean the way it is now？ 

Q：Yes.

A：Or the way it was before I got here？

Q：The current moment， too， he believes is unsustainable. 

A：Well， no， they won’t do any business here， because at 145% it's going to be very rare that you see business.

Q：But your conversations with Xi have made you feel like we’re moving towards a more productive—

A：Oh， there’s a number at which they will feel comfortable. Yeah. But you can’t let them make a trillion dollars from us. You can’t let them make $750 billion. See， that’s really what’s not sustainable when China makes a trillion dollars， or a trillion one， when we have almost $2 trillion worth of， I call it loss. Some people don't， but a lot of it’s loss. I say， when you have a trade deficit of $2 trillion I consider that loss.

特朗普又形容，自己是一家巨型且美麗的商店，每個人都會想進去購物，而他會制定價格，「若你想在這裡購物，這就是你必須支付的價格」。

特朗普公布對等關稅後，又突然暫緩中國以外部分國家關稅90天，市場分析認為與金融危機風險增加有關。特朗普卻指自己不擔心金融風險，亦沒有人叫他暫緩，全屬個人決定。

他相信，未來3至4周便可與各國達成貿易協議，目前已完成了200筆交易。

Q：Mr. President， there was a period of time on April 9 when the bond market was under extreme stress and there was a risk of a financial crisis far beyond what the plummeting stock market suggested. 

A：I wasn’t worried. 

Q：What did your advisers tell you， though？ You were in the Oval Office with Scott Bessent and Howard Lutnick. What did they tell you to convince you to lift the reciprocal tariffs for the 90-day pause？

A：They didn’t tell me. I did that. 

Q：What made you decide？ 

A：It wasn’t for that reason.

Q：It wasn’t for the bond market？

A：No， it wasn’t for that reason. I'm doing that until we come up with the numbers that I want to come up with. I've met with a lot of countries. I've talked on the telephone. I don’t even want them to come in. 

Q：You said the bond market was getting the yips.

A：The bond market was getting the yips， but I wasn’t. Because I know what we have. I know what we have， but I also know we won't have it for long if we allowed four more years of the gross incompetence. This thing was just running—it was running as a free spirit. This was—this was the most incompetent president in history.

Q：Your trade adviser， Peter Navarro， says 90 deals in 90 days is possible. We're now 13 days into the point from when you lifted the reciprocal， the discounted reciprocal tariffs. There's zero deals so far. Why is that？ 

A：No， there’s many deals. 

Q：When are they going to be announced？ 

A：You have to understand， I'm dealing with all the companies， very friendly countries. We're meeting with China. We're doing fine with everybody. But ultimately， I've made all the deals.

Q：Not one has been announced yet. When are you going to announce them？

A：I’ve made 200 deals. 

Q：You’ve made 200 deals？

A：100%.

Q：I’m just curious， why don’t you announce these deals that you’ve solidified？ 

A：I would say， over the next three to four weeks， and we're finished， by the way.

Q：You’re finished？ 

A：We’ll be finished. 

Q：Oh， you will be finished in three to four weeks. 

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